Helen was a wonderful, wonderful friend. I remember, our freshman year, she lived across from me. When Israel was declared a state, she came running in shouting that her uncle had become the prime minister [of Israel]. Moshe Shertok, but he took the name of Sharett. Moshe Sharett was the first, I think, Prime Minister[1]. That was exciting. I never thought of her as particularly connected to anything. Yet, she was, and I find out that she is so excited about the fact that Israel is now a state and her uncle is the first prime minister. That was really a shock to me.
 
What other kind of reaction did you have when Israel became a state, or was there a reaction on campus?
 
I don't remember that. The fact that I don't remember it doesn't means that it was not celebrated. I don't remember anything else, celebratory or negative. There might have been, and I'm sure there was. I'm sure, there was because there was some faculty that I know, I didn't have them, but I know that they were not probably too happy.